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Can't confirm RF door sensors - VISTA20P with EL3

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:07 pm
by RyanDL
Greetings,

New EnvisaLink3 user here with lots of electronics "know how", but a novice at working with alarm systems. I haven't been able to find a similar problem on this or other forums, so I apologize in advance if it's been addressed prior - if so, I'm happy to read a link if one is provided.

Background:
I upgraded from an old Honeywell system this past weekend to a VISTA20P so that I could install an EL3 board. This meant a new control board (the 20P), using an existing RF expansion board from the old system (a 5882-3ENH that is "known good"), and swapping my old keypad for a 6160. The EL3 board is working correctly and I can view it online, send codes, monitor the zones, etc.

Since my old system worked perfectly, I know each of the (2) wired and (7) wireless sensors are good. Again, being a new system, I had to program everything in via the keypad from scratch - I was able to easily navigate the programming sequences. The (2) wired sensors appear to work: motion (tested) and carbon monoxide (didn't test, but no faults). Of the (7) wireless sensors, (3) are installed, working, and confirmed/recognized: (2) smoke detectors and (1) motion. I need to try the glass breakage again; this isn't a high priority at this time.

Issue:
Of the (7) wireless sensors in my house, (3) of them are wireless door sensors (standard Ademco/Honeywell 5816) using the standard wired NC contacts (therefore, Loop 2). For the life of me, I can't get the system to recognize them. In *56 mode, I've checked each of the parameters and have verified that the IDs match between what's on the sensor labels and what's shown on the keypad. When asked to "Xmit to Confirm", I've done everything I know to do: open/close doors multiple times (both slowly and quickly), pressed/released the tamper switch on the sensor, removed and reinstalled battery. None of these events have been recognized by the system and I've done this on 2 of the 3 doors. The display continues to show "Xmit to Confirm" rather than showing the wireless ID.

What am I missing?

Is it OK that I'm trying to add these (3) wireless sensors to the system after the EL3 is installed and working?

Any help and ideas appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Ryan

Re: Can't confirm RF door sensors - VISTA20P with EL3

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:56 pm
by RyanDL
I thought I would update the thread based on new info and a probable solution.

It seems that the latest version of VISTA 20P firmware (v10.23) does not support older 5800-series wireless sensors. Of my (3) wireless 5816 sensors, (2) are the older style and (1) is the newer style. The new version will pair with the panel, but the old will not.

How to identify old vs. new? The new style has a clip on the cover that you press to release - no tools required and easy to remove. The old style must be pried-off by inserting a screwdriver into the small cutout on the cover.

I've ordered (2) new 5816 sensors to replace the old ones and will confirm once complete to ensure this is the correct fix. I hope this is helpful to anyone else experiencing the same problem now or in the future!

Ryan

Re: Can't confirm RF door sensors - VISTA20P with EL3

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:29 am
by RyanDL
Hi all,

Final update for reference purposes...

I installed 2 new 5816 wireless window/door sensors and they enrolled immediately. Everything is now working well, including the EL3 module.

There has been a lot of good information posted on this topic in another forum, should anyone need to reference. http://www.doityourself.com/forum/elect ... ta20p.html

Thanks,
Ryan