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Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:32 pm
by trtv
Hello,

I've the EVL4 DSC. I sent the command "060,1" to trigger the fire alarm. That worked. However, after receiving an email with the subjects "Security Event: Keypad [F]ire Alarm", I immediately received another email "Security Event: Keypad [F]ire Alarm Restoral". This is even before I enter my code to turn off the fire alarm.

This looks like a bug to me. The second email should not have arrived until the panel is disarmed.

Anyone sees the same problem?

Thanks,

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:02 am
by GrandWizard
That is how DSC panels work. If you hit the F key on your keypad it will generate a Fire panic and immediately restore because you let go of the button. Fire panic is different from tripping a fire zone.

Try it yourself from a keypad

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:25 am
by trtv
Thanks. I did notice that on the panel as well. Is there a way that we can trigger a fire zone programmatically then? The use case would be having some motion sensors on the 2nd floor. If those sensors got trigger, then I will start the siren.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:50 am
by GrandWizard
Sorry, I am not following you. Why do you want to trigger a fire alarm? You can connect your smoke detectors directly to your panel if they are connected smokes/COs.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 pm
by trtv
Ah, my alarm system is hard wired to doors and windows in the basement and first floor. I do have additional battery-based motion sensors on the 2nd floor. So I'd like to trigger the alarm if those sensors are triggered and when the house is arm-away. Thanks.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:04 pm
by GrandWizard
Are you saying that your wireless sensors are not connected to your panel? What are these?

What panel do you have? All Honeywell and DSC panels offer wireless motion detectors.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:58 pm
by trtv
I run my home automation system with many sensors. And yes, I have a bunch of Zigbee sensors that are stand alone. These are used for various purpose. One of which would be to trigger the alarm system. I can programmatically trigger the key paid fire panic, but as you've answered previously, the DSC panel doesn't behave quite as expected. As such, I am looking for another sort of alarm trigger that won't be restored until the user enter the code.

Oh, I believe have the DSC 1616 system.

Thanks.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:31 pm
by GrandWizard
Use a PGM tied to a zone to put the panel into alarm when armed.

So create an away burg zone on a free hardwired zone and program PGM 1 to momentary (2 second). Then wire the PGM to your hardwired zone. You can then use either the TPI or the built-in webservice in the Envisalink to trigger that PGM and that will put the panel into alarm as if an away zone were tripped.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:42 pm
by trtv
Thanks GrandWizard. I am assuming that these are either the TPI commands 601, 620, or 654. They don't work for me. I am using an add-on with OpenHab. Perhaps this is a limitation (the add-on might only support Application Commands). I will check with the add-on author. Thanks for your help.

Re: Receive "Fire Alarm Restored" immediately after triggering the fire alarm

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:34 am
by GrandWizard
I don't know if this helps but you can also trigger a PGM from a webhook. See this thread

http://forum.eyez-on.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5192